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Manuel Tavares
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So NOW is forever.Is more or less the same thing as the Silver Age time.
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Aaron Smith
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So time should stay still in the Super hero Universes?
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Comics-universe time is something unique. Time has to pass from one story to the next, obviously, but at the same time, the characters should stay in their ideal forms at their ideal ages. For example, while Batman has been doing his thing for long enough to be an experienced crimefighter and have taken on a sidekick and faced his most prominent foes a number of times, he must remain in his athletic prime as a man of a certain age.
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Kip Lewis
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Haven't we discussed this before?
Pros and cons to both views. When I came to comics,
characters aged. Franklin got older, Peter graduated
from college. Johnny grew. Three members of the FF were
made younger due to a Skrull aging ray. Robin aged, even
before he became Nightwing. The LOSH grew up.
Maybe even the presence of Superboy made aging a norm to
me.
So aging to me might be as fundamental to superhero as
costumes. Maybe that is why I like periodic reboots.
On the other hand Ultimate Spider-man not aging never
bothered me in over 100 issues. But then they kill him.
Edited by Kip Lewis on 07 July 2013 at 4:00pm
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Monte Gruhlke
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I really enjoy Grayson as Nightwing, but overall I lean towards the idea that teenage characters never grow up.
Case in point: Peter Parker started out in high school... and after a while Marvel brought him to college... and the lines began to blur even more these days as he (and his previous H.S. cast) seem to be eeking into the early 30's. The Spider-Man of all our youths seems to have vanished entirely.
Take this one further: What happens when DC decides to take a few of the current Teen-Titans and make them become grown up?
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DW Zomberg
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Everybody loves Nightwing. More like too many fans love knock-offs of existing characters.
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William Roberge
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No.
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Manuel Tavares
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"More like too many fans love knock-offs of existing characters."DW Zomberg ~~~~~~~~~~ It's curious,tough. To think how could readers wanted to get rid so readily of Robin and wind up with so many Robins as mantle bearers.
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William T. Byrd
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When I was younger, I wanted characters to age as I did. I thought that characters should die/retire and be replaced as time passed. Why should we still be reading stories about the same charcters in the same settings and circumstances 20 or 30 years after their creation? Why arent creators coming up with characters as popular as the ones created decades ago instead of standing on the shoulders of previous creators?
As I got older I realized how selfish it was to want to deprive future generations of the characters I enjoyed as a kid.
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Robert Bradley
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Aging the characters was a big mistake.
Topical reference like combat service or current presidents should be kept to a bare minimum and tying comic book events to specific historical events should probably be avoided at all costs.
By the time the 1960's were winding down the writers and editors should have known that comics were going to be around for a while and references to things like Viet Nam and Watergate in the 70's weren't a good idea in the long run (they should have had an idea from just looking at the WWII characters running around and the lengths that were being taken to explain their activity at an advanced age). Except that some of the writers of the 70's couldn't help but use the stories to voice their political viewpoints.
This lack of long-term planning was magnified by aging characters like Franklin Richards and Dick Grayson.
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Joe Zhang
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Never!
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Rich Marzullo
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Nope. No aging.
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Carmen Bernardo
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When I started out reading comics, I was almost exclusively exposed to Marvel's characters, who aged, however imperceptibly it seemed at times. I had an origin issue of Amazing Spider-Man where it was explained that he started out as a high school student and was now in college, so I accepted the premise. I saw DC characters differently, since most of them were basically the same as they were when introduced about a decade or two before the Marvel superheroes.
By the time DC started aping Marvel in having its characters age, that image of Robin as the Boy Wonder stuck, and so it was a bit odd to see him doing adult things in Wolfman & Perez's New Teen Titans. Not long after that, characters in both companies seemed to age at different rates, so that you now have the New Mutants as adults, Generation X as college students, and "Academy X" mutants still as senior high school or junior college students. All of this while the original and second-generation X-Men never seemed to have aged. As a result, I'd accept aging in comicbook characters if they were done right.
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