Active Topics | Member List | Search | Help | Register | Login
Star Trek
Byrne Robotics > Star Trek << Prev Page of 185 Next >>
Topic: STAR TREK: NEW VISIONS - Origins and Updates Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message
Greg Kirkman
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 12 May 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 13481
Posted: 14 December 2016 at 9:58am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

On the other hand, the reverse is true with NEW VISIONS. If all the panels were laid out in strict obedience to the established model -- square on shots, academy ratio proportions -- this would be one DULL comicbook!
++++++++

Exactly my point!
Back to Top profile | search | email
 
John Byrne
Avatar
Beam Me Up, Scotty!

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 106462
Posted: 17 December 2016 at 7:47am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

A quick and dirty test shot for a scene that may be in an upcoming issue.

Back to Top profile | search
 
Anthony J Lombardi
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 12 January 2005
Location: United States
Posts: 8959
Posted: 17 December 2016 at 10:37am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

That is a great shot. I hope it does make it into one of the books. It makes sense that the transporter could be disassembled for repair. 
Back to Top profile | search
 
Greg Kirkman
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 12 May 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 13481
Posted: 17 December 2016 at 10:49am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Oh, that's neat.
Back to Top profile | search | email
 
Marten van Wier
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 07 August 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 331
Posted: 17 December 2016 at 2:13pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

That is a great shot. I hope it does make it into one of the books. It makes sense that the transporter could be disassembled for repair.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As long as it does not involve "transwarp beaming".

But it is nice to see what the machines of the Enterprise look like "under the hood".
Back to Top profile | search
 
Doug Centers
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 17 February 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 2262
Posted: 17 December 2016 at 7:10pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Nice!

I'll be looking for it.......6 to 8 months from now :-(
Back to Top profile | search
 
Marten van Wier
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 07 August 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 331
Posted: 18 December 2016 at 1:12am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

BTW, how long have you been 3D modeling Mr Byrne?
Back to Top profile | search
 
John Byrne
Avatar
Beam Me Up, Scotty!

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 106462
Posted: 18 December 2016 at 7:15am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

BTW, how long have you been 3D modeling Mr Byrne?

Since OMAC. There I used a very simple architectural modeler to build the time machine "set".

Back to Top profile | search
 
paul naring
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 December 2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 201
Posted: 20 December 2016 at 2:17pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

  I for one am glad you never went to Hollywood ( if only these newer creators had your approach ) or we'd never have VISIONS. Yes the bills have to be paid but if you're talking about art over a backyard swimming pool well its the art that will be remembered and live on. I put creators like you JB in the same bracket as the classical artists of old in that the love of what you do just comes through your work. 

in other words you never sold out.

 
Back to Top profile | search
 
John Byrne
Avatar
Beam Me Up, Scotty!

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 106462
Posted: 20 December 2016 at 2:45pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Thank you for noticing!

Sadly, many who did sell out would insist they didn't. Somewhere along the way "being in it for the money" became synonymous with expecting to be paid for one's work. It's not, and I was something close to horrified when a friend (and artist I greatly admired) "corrected" me, saying we were ALL "in it for the money."

Back to Top profile | search
 
paul naring
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 December 2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 201
Posted: 21 December 2016 at 5:51am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Which is why there seems to be very little point in Marvel Comics in my opinion , it like anyone who was anyone has left for Hollywood and forgot to switch the lights off. 

I put creators like yourself in the brackets of the old masters. If there was no love for art then Van Gogh would probably have been a farmer or something. 

In my LCS I was comparing New Visions to the recent Doctor Who comics that are springing up. I bought the Tom Baker issues only to find they were nothing at all like the series. The creators of the mag felt had an unlimited budget and could do whatever they pleased and what you had was a very un-Doctor Who story. I explained your approach to the owner and how NV really has that original series feel and yet its modern.
Back to Top profile | search
 
John Byrne
Avatar
Beam Me Up, Scotty!

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 106462
Posted: 21 December 2016 at 10:12am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

One of my guiding principles on STNV is that I give myself an "unlimited budget" but also keep in mind that I am operating "in" the late Sixties. So while I allow myself much bigger and more elaborate "sets" than TOS could ever have afforded, the design sensibilities must be true to the show.
Back to Top profile | search
 
paul naring
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 December 2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 201
Posted: 22 December 2016 at 8:24am | IP Logged | 13 post reply

JB would you ever be tempted to re-do an episode from the third season in the NV format ? I know that it's your least favourite season, but what if you had the opportunity to revisit and remake an episode, which episode(s) would you choose?

If I was your editor I'd have to say a creator of your calibre would have to tackle Spocks Brain. 
Back to Top profile | search
 
John Byrne
Avatar
Beam Me Up, Scotty!

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 106462
Posted: 22 December 2016 at 9:27am | IP Logged | 14 post reply

JB would you ever be tempted to re-do an episode from the third season in the NV format ? I know that it's your least favourite season, but what if you had the opportunity to revisit and remake an episode, which episode(s) would you choose?

If I was your editor I'd have to say a creator of your calibre would have to tackle Spocks Brain.

I guess it would come down to whether I was choosing the worst of S3, or the "best". For years -- decades! -- I said "All Our Yesterdays" was the best of the third season, but watching it again a few years back, I found it plenty flawed.

One of the things I have been working hard to avoid on STNV is the danger of slipping into unconscious parody. This is one of the reasons, for instance, that I have allowed myself an "unlimited budget." Trying to duplicate those low budget sets could turn quickly into mockery, the last thing I want. But attempting to adapt S3 episodes might make for an unavoidable trip down that lane!

Back to Top profile | search
 
Marten van Wier
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 07 August 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 331
Posted: 22 December 2016 at 6:32pm | IP Logged | 15 post reply

If I was your editor I'd have to say a creator of your calibre would have to tackle Spocks Brain.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I think something interesting could be done with a title such as that without it being a ridiculous storyline involving Spock's brain being stolen.

Perhaps a little like Voyager's "Flashback", a journey in Spock's mind after Spock has suffered some kind of injury and now takes a mental journey in his psyche to put himself back together.
Or perhaps Kirk entering Spock's mind through some advanced medical device with the intention of helping his friend get out of a comatose state.

Plenty of possibilities

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I said "All Our Yesterdays" was the best of the third season, but watching it again a few years back, I found it plenty flawed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So which is your favorite S3 episode now Mr Byrne?
Back to Top profile | search
 
Brian Hague
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 November 2006
Posts: 6781
Posted: 22 December 2016 at 7:07pm | IP Logged | 16 post reply

Originally, the story was supposed to be a high-concept comedy supposedly. I don't think that would have worked too well either, but what we got; something that's neither fish nor fowl, certainly fell far short of anything resembling quality. 

I think we just be glad the kiss the Romulan Commander blew to Spock in "The Enterprise Incident" didn't make the final cut... Things could always have been worse. 

Back to Top profile | search | email
 
John Byrne
Avatar
Beam Me Up, Scotty!

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 106462
Posted: 27 December 2016 at 10:44am | IP Logged | 17 post reply

I said "All Our Yesterdays" was the best of the third season, but watching it again a few years back, I found it plenty flawed.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So which is your favorite S3 episode now Mr Byrne?

I did not say it was flawed enough to slip below any of the others.

Back to Top profile | search
 
John Byrne
Avatar
Beam Me Up, Scotty!

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 106462
Posted: 27 December 2016 at 10:48am | IP Logged | 18 post reply

Testing, testing

Captain's Log -- USS ENTERPRISE approaching a world trapped in an ice age so intense all the surface water is locked into the ice sheets.

(Or, putting that another way, a planetary map made from a photo of the ice melting on my terrace, with crackling provided by stepping on it several times. Brick patterns removed in Ps.)

Back to Top profile | search
 
Marten van Wier
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 07 August 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 331
Posted: 28 December 2016 at 3:20am | IP Logged | 19 post reply

I did not say it was flawed enough to slip below any of the others.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Okay, I got the idea after reading your earlier post that you had a new favorite S3 episode now.
Back to Top profile | search
 
paul naring
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 December 2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 201
Posted: 28 December 2016 at 6:45am | IP Logged | 20 post reply

I'd say that pic passed the test JB
Back to Top profile | search
 
Joe Hollon
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 08 May 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 13120
Posted: 29 December 2016 at 3:50am | IP Logged | 21 post reply

Just read "The Hidden Face".  Another fantastic issue.  Thanks JB.
Back to Top profile | search | www | email
 
John Byrne
Avatar
Beam Me Up, Scotty!

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 106462
Posted: 29 December 2016 at 10:56am | IP Logged | 22 post reply

I'd say that pic passed the test JB

Thanks! I've already started concocting a story to go with it!

Back to Top profile | search
 
Bill Mimbu
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 April 2008
Location: United States
Posts: 6704
Posted: 29 December 2016 at 4:48pm | IP Logged | 23 post reply

Just read "The Hidden Face". Another fantastic issue. Thanks JB.

***

Echoing that! Picked up my issue yesterday with the monthly clean-out of my LCS pull-box. Definitely felt like a TOS episode!
Back to Top profile | search
 
John Byrne
Avatar
Beam Me Up, Scotty!

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 106462
Posted: 29 December 2016 at 8:56pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

Once again I note a number of fan sites that describe STNV as "wordy" or even "too wordy." I've mentioned this before, but this time I'm finding such comments coupled with compliments. The same folk who criticize my word count praise my capture of the "voices" of the characters.

Well, folk, we really can't have one without the other. I can very much "hear" the actors speaking my lines, and it is that which dictates how much -- how many words -- each has to say.

That said, it does leave me somewhat curious. I'd be interested if someone with time on their hands did an actual word count on a few random issues and episodes.

Back to Top profile | search
 
Greg Kirkman
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 12 May 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 13481
Posted: 30 December 2016 at 1:50am | IP Logged | 25 post reply

Well, in terms of both verbosity and rhythms of dialogue, I think NEW VISIONS is spot-on. TOS was a talky show, after all. To the point that, in the occasional discussions/arguments I have with people who don't like or get TREK (or say STAR WARS is better), the prime argument is often that STAR TREK is "boring" because it's a show where people just sit in one room and talk. Sigh.
Back to Top profile | search | email
 

<< Prev Page of 185 Next >>
  Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

 Active Topics | Member List | Search | Help | Register | Login