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Rick Senger
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Posted: 06 February 2019 at 11:41am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

All the Davis attention has blunted an otherwise major trade with Philly acquiring All-Star calibre Tobias Harris in exchange for picks and minor players.  Harris can shoot 3s, he's a 20 PPG fourth major offensive threat, and he's just the right age at 26 with 8 years of NBA experience to help the young team.  The 76ers are clearly in "win-now" mode, giving up two first rounders (one unprotected) and they lack bench depth but they now have arguably one of the top two starting fives in the league with Embiid, Simmons, Redick, Harris and Butler. 
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I think it also means they've kicked the tires on Butler and may want to move on from him after the season.
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Interesting late trade from Raptors, sending Jonas Valancunias, Delon Writght and a 2024 second-round draft pick to the Grizzlies in exchange for the 34-year-old Marc Gasol.

Sad to see JV go, who was a bit of a fan favourite: a long-standing Raptor, an uncomplaining team player who had shown a willingness to try and expand his game and had been having an effective season up until his thumb injury.

Gasol brings undoubted quality and should be an upgrade in the here and now, provided he stays fit. But he is pretty late-career.
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they've kicked the tires on Butler and may want to move on from him after the season.
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Right.  Keeping the four stars is possible, but cripplingly expensive.  Embiid gets about $27.3 mill next year and $29 the following and his price will only go up.   Harris makes $14.8 mill but is a summer free agent who can expect north of $20 mill going forward.  Butler is a max-type guy who can opt out of his $19.3 next year for a bigger payday.   Simmons is still cheap at $8 mill next year but then he's in for a big raise.  Philly is going for it right now and the fate of Butler is probably tied to how they do in the playoffs this year. 

Gasol brings undoubted quality and should be an upgrade in the here and now, provided he stays fit. But he is pretty late-career.
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Toronto is trying to buttress their argument to Kawhi to stay and I agree that Gasol brings short term stability and reliability that could help but it's a tight window and a gamble.  If Gasol gets them far in the playoffs this year and Kawhi stays, absolutely worth it.  But I see him as likely to decline further and sooner though, so the time is now. 

In general the East (other than Boston, who has summer plans for Davis) made the biggest splashes.  Milwaukee's acquisition of Mirotic (16.7 Pts / 8.3 rebs per 29 minutes and still only age 27) for a bunch of second round picks was the other significant move and maybe the biggest steal.  
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Boston's summer plans for Davis might blow up in their face. Hope its worth trading Tatum and more for a player they possibly will only have one season.
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It's a very nervous time for Celtics fans.  Boston can't sign Davis until Irving opts out July 1st but if Irving doesn't sign a new deal then they surely won't be getting Davis long term (and as you say it's a risk regardless) so giving up Tatum is quite a gamble.  Ainge has rolled the dice before and had it work plus it does seem like some change needs to be made so I'm trusting in the process. 
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What gets me is, the Celtics aren't one of the four teams that Davis has stated he'd be willing to sign a long term contract with, but the Knicks are. 

Why would anyone willingly sign on with the Knicks, when there are other options? That team hasn't been good in about 2 decades. Their ownership is trash. You only go to the Knicks for a boatload of cash or because no one else is interested. 
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Yeah, I think the list is an attempt by Rich Paul to make it harder for Boston and other non-LA teams to get Davis.  Milwaukee and the Clips really have little they'd want to offer that NO would want to take.  The Knicks have two max slots and they do have a shot at getting the #1 pick which would be an attractive trade piece.   If they could somehow get Durant or Irving then it might be more palatable for Davis to join up.
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There's a lot of money to be made off the court playing in New York, beginning with his shoe deal.

And New York is still "The Mecca of Basketball" no matter who runs the Knicks.

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I've been watching with interest as both Boston and LA have been in serious disarray since all the rumors surrounding players from both teams being swapped for Davis began.  It can't be good for morale when you hear your name bandied about in the media as trade bait every day and I would guess that not only will LA NOT make the playoffs as a result, Boston will lose a lot earlier than expected, like maybe the first or second round.  While it's fun to speculate on blockbuster moves, there's no question it can be damaging to the psyche and chemistry of a team.  Both clubs have dealt with injuries but there's nothing to prevent either from doing better than their records.  The damage done to whichever team doesn't end up with Davis (and it could be both) is just as bad or worse than the benefits to whoever gets him in the end. 
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The Celtics could very well end up without Tatum and Kyrie next season. Tatum through trade, Kyrie through free agency. I think they'll be making a mistake if they go after AD, whether they still have those players or not. Especially if they trade Tatum.

Meanwhile, the one move I'd like to see the Lakers make is to trade Lonzo.The problem is that Lonzo's father comes along with him, and while he's not as much of a pest as he has been, LaVar still doesn't know when to shut up.


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I can't see them trading Tatum for anyone other than Davis.  But the damage has already been done because Tatum pretty much knows he was on the trading block (or so the media says) and his relationship with the team has probably changed.  The same holds for Brown.  There have been rumors of tensions between Brown and Kyrie so it might be just as well to move one or the other (Brown is the more obvious choice if they want to keep Davis, who is friends with Kyrie).  Boston probably overachieved last year so their coming down to Earth this year is reasonable if disappointing, though the season's not ever yet!

I think LA would trade Lonzo in a second if they could get anything reasonable back.  I don't think there's that much interest thanks to his light shooting and lack of aggression.  Lonzo can rebound and dish quite respectably but the one sin point guards can't have is passivity. 
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With Ingram (a potentially serious blood clot issue) and Lonzo (high ankle sprain) shut down for the season and Kuzma in doubt plus LBJ getting restricted minutes, the Lakers have cashed it in and entered full on tank mode.  Probably the right move since the playoffs are all but impossible though nabbing Zion is unlikely.  Seems like Walton is doomed. 

Boston's minor resurgence and a video of Kyrie in a playful one-on-one game vs. Brown and Tatum suggests tensions may have subsided for now.  Philly can't seem to get it together so the Celtics may sneak into the fourth spot and the East remains interesting and competitive.  Wish the playoffs weren't still a month away.


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Malcolm Brogdon is out for 6-8 weeks with Plantar Fasciitis, which means he'll likely miss the first and maybe second round of the Bucks' playoffs.  Significant loss for a team with the highest margin of victory and best overall, home and road records in the league.  They're thin in the backcourt (Snell and Hill will have to step up but Hill is not what he used to be and Snell has never been.)   If Bledsoe gets hurt, this East frontrunner is doomed. 
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Hopefully he will return in time and ready to help the Bucks. He is a really important piece on their roster on both ends of the floor.
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Monster 52 pt game for Giannis yesterday but obviously Brogdon's absence was felt as Hill and Snell were both ineffective and Milw goes down to Philly in a rare home loss.
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Another gruesome leg injury during a rather routine-looking play, this time to Portland C Jusuf Nurkic.  I don't recall these types of injuries happening when I was growing up; is it a function of the players getting bigger and stronger (what other sport involves 300 pound 7-footers banging each other with no pads while playing on a hardwood floor) or just bad luck?


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D Wade goes out with a 30 point bang in his last home game but sadly Miami is eliminated.  A bit more surprising was Nowitksi's retirement announcement (also 30 points in his last game before a Dallas crowd.)  Both first ballot HOFers and I'm glad they're both going out on their own terms with gas still in the tanks. 

Far more shocking is Magic's announcement that he is stepping down as Lakers' president.  I'm sure we'll hear more in the coming days but it initially sounds like Jeanie Buss didn't want to fire Luke Walton and Magic didn't feel he could continue without the autonomy to have "his" man at that position.  It wasn't a great season and surely the AD situation didn't help but Magic had only just gotten here and he did sign LeBron.  Magic seems to want to be his own man again, something he couldn't do as president because his candid words brought big fines to LA for purported tampering.  He says he didn't consult with Buss in his leaving for fear she would talk him out of it.  If true, Magic shows real class in bowing out rather than stirring up the pot.  I never thought it was an ideal position for him though I think the tidal wave of injuries (including the most significant one of LeBron's career) was more to blame for the Lakers' woes than anything Johnson did.  They assembled an odd cast of supporting characters but the Lakers did start out 17-10 before just about every major player suffered health issues and LA slumped to just 20-35 the rest of the way.   Magic's exit ironically reminds me of a similarly sudden, unexpected departure by the man he is most linked to in his career, Larry Bird.  Bird had just guided the Pacers to the top record in the Eastern conference and took them all the way to the NBA Finals where they lost 4-2 (their best NBA showing ever) and abruptly quit coaching at a point nobody wanted him to leave.  


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Rob Pelinka needs to go also.
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It's probably in the Lakers' best interest to get a seasoned pro in there to replace Magic, who was reportedly a rather absentee President.  Magic so many other business concerns he was always going to be distracted and he makes a better ambassador / face of the franchise than an actual day to day nuts and bolts kind of guy.   Pelinka was reportedly constantly harping on Magic's absences and spent a lot of time in CYA mode, not a good look in general.  Jeannie needs to bring a team like those who run the Spurs and give them the reins.  LA has the money and the great place to live and a reasonable foundation; surely they can attract a good GM / President team.  Whatever she does, though, it's a critical summer with all the cap space LA has.  If they don't come up with any marquee free agents then LeBron's arrival may have gone for naught as his competitive window is slowly closing. 
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Luke Walton shouldn't have been fired. But lets face it: in sports, the coach/manager is almost always the scapegoat. Even if team chemistry or the general manager is really the problem. Sacramento snapped him up as their head coach the day after he was fired. And you know what? Despite being a Lakers fan, I hope the Kings win their first road game against the Lakers next season.

The Lakers' next head coach will obviously be someone either with ties to Lebron, or who will just let him do whatever he wants.


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After Magic's exit there was a perception that Walton was "damaged goods" and didn't have the confidence of the front office (so many media reports that he was scheduled to be fired until Magic quit), which can be very detrimental to his authority whether it was true or not.  I don't think any coach could have done much with the incredible injury pox that spread across LA's players this year so it will be interesting to see how Walton does with the up and coming Kings.

The Lakers have drafted reasonably well, nabbing Kuzma late in the first round through a trade as well as drafting D'angelo Russell (all star), Julius Randle (all star calibre) and Zubac (big with much potential, deep 2nd rd pick).  Their problem is they trade players just as they are blossoming and get less in return.  They also drafted Lonzo Ball, a bust to date along with Brandon Ingram who faces a potentially career threatening blood clot issue.  It now sounds like Magic wanted to fire Pelinka but Jeanie wouldn't go for it and that's the reason Magic bolted.  The juiciest theory I've heard (from Colin Cowherd) is that Kobe Bryant might now take the post (Buss loves to hire former Lakers and she LOVES Kobe, plus Pelinka is Kobe's best friend and confidant.)  There's also the notion that LeBron threatens Kobe's favorite son Laker status and that Kobe might enjoy having some control / credit should LA turn it around.  Kobe is much more of a grinder / detail guy than Magic ever was, a better fit for President.   Problem is, I don't believe for one second Kobe wants the job.  We'll see. 

Three playoff upsets yesterday (Orlando shocked #2 Toronto, SA surprised the #2 Nuggets plus #6 Brooklyn downed #3 Philly wire to wire.)  Toronto has a history of early round jitters but imagine what happens to Masai Ujiri if Toronto can't escape the first round after giving up big pieces to get Kawhi Leonard and Marc Gasol, both of whom may not work out for differing reasons.  Plus, LeBron is no longer an excuse.  I'd expect a rebound in game two but if not, he may soon be available if the Lakers have interest.

I'm not so sure about the Nuggets and Philly.  Embiid's knees won't be improving and everyone but Butler shriveled in game one.  San Antonio and Pop have exceeded everyone's expectations as usual and just seem to have Denver's number.



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Ric I'm a big San Antonio fan and believe they can take out the Nuggets but my enthusiasm wanes after that.  Popovichs magic can only go so far. 
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Yeah, the West is still GS and Houston's world until someone else proves otherwise. 
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Wild GS / Clips game!  LA came in as the biggest underdog in any playoff series since 1988 at 100-1 against and got down by 31 points on the road yet won the game with the biggest playoff comeback in NBA history.   Even more significant is the news that Boogie Cousins may have torn his quad, which would likely be season-ending.  Suddenly the Warriors look  a lot more vulnerable. 
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