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John Byrne
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The little cylinders on the utility belt are more limiting on what can be carried, thus my preference for the pouches. •• You do appreciate this is all fantasy, yes?
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William Roberge
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Limited by who? The writer? In another thread a discussion is going on about how things where perceived in comics when we were kids. When I was a kid I always assumed that "Hay, Batman always has what he needs in his belt" I never thought He was limited in what he could hold. I guess I'm saying I don't see a need for the pouches.
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William Roberge
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I am such a slow typer....
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Paulo Pereira
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JB wrote:
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Even with that in mind, someone (Eliot R. Brown, perhaps?) took the trouble of drawing the diagram posted further above that shows exactly what's in the pouches. It's reasonable to assume Batman only needs a certain amount of these items on his nightly patrols; large pouches would be bulky and restrictive. Batman, one would think, would want to be as streamlined as possible.
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Lars Sandmark
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The reason I mentioned the belt-pouches is mainly to enforce my statement that the animated style Batman appealed to me so strongly that I'm willing to accept a 'new' design element almost without question. I grew up with the oval, blue cape and cylinders-belt but the cartoon was so well done that I had little problem changing my outlook/opinion. 
HOWEVER,
The oval was a perfect way to police an on-model emblem. Now that there is a precedent set for changing the look of the emblem, everyone makes it look wacky. (I'm looking at YOU Alex Ross)
The oval guaranteed that the artist had to make it look 'right', now, not so much.
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John Byrne
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Even with that in mind, someone (Eliot R. Brown, perhaps?) took the trouble of drawing the diagram posted further above that shows exactly what's in the pouches.•• Elliot probably wasn't even BORN when that drawing was done!
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Paulo Pereira
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Andy T. wrote:
| However, I prefer not to see blue without the yellow oval. Batman Odyssey is colored like this, and to me looks very odd. |
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Interesting point. I think the oval does help the blue Batman. Though, as I said before, I think the yellow oval looks better with black.
Edited by Paulo Pereira on 01 August 2010 at 10:14am
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Christos Seros
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I love the animated Batman and Robin costume. The red and black for Robin I think was perfect. When I get a Batman commission I would love to have JB draw Batman as he did in the 3D graphic novel and Robin the way he is done in the above image. Different than the norm but how I would love to own the characters.
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Paulo Pereira
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JB wrote:
| Elliot probably wasn't even BORN when that drawing was done! |
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Huh. Would've never figured that drawing to be earlier than the 80s. Interesting.
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John Byrne
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The oval guaranteed that the artist had to make it look 'right', now, not so much.•• Seriously? 
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John Byrne
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Elliot probably wasn't even BORN when that drawing was done!++ Huh. Would've never figured that drawing to be earlier than the 80s. Interesting. •• That may, indeed, be a later version of that drawing than the one I remember from my childhood -- but either way, I don't recall Elliot working for DC at any time. Anyone?
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Greg Kirkman:
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I like both versions. The oval-less version makes more sense, was the first one around, and just looks cool, but the oval version (particularly the stylized version as refined by Adams) is very much the Batman I grew up with. While I like many of the different iterations by artists over the decades, thanks to my childhood memories, this is the version that auromatically springs to mind when I think of Batman--the Adams/Aparo/Garcia-Lopez look: |
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As usual Greg says what I think!
Always pro yellow oval, but if it there isn't... well, not a big problem.
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