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Jack Michaels
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Posted: 09 September 2013 at 2:07pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I'm more of a recon player. I'm stealthy right up until the moment I balls it up and have to shoot it out.  I love it when I have the time to get the lay of the land, sabotage a few things, and thin the herd a bit. 

I love stealth, but I'm not terribly good at it. 
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I've only just started SAINTS ROW THE THIRD, but holy good dog this thing is a total GTA clone so far.  I'm talking classic GTA, like 2 o 3, not the more high minded GTA of the last couple of releases.  Maybe I haven't done enough missions yet, but just exploring the city a little and seeing the elements of the game it feels like Rockstar could sue for intellectual property theft!
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Posted: 10 September 2013 at 10:01am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Isn't Saints Row about just insane gaming?
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Pretty much. The first two games are very much in the GTA comfort zone, so much so that many GTA fans consider it the spiritual successor to the earlier games. 

SR3 is where the game unapologetically embraces sci-fi, which will play a bigger and bigger role as the game progresses, but you should have already had your first mini-boss fight against a Brute. 

There's a lot of minor innovation going on, such as SR1 was the first to use a GPS system making it far easier to navigate the world. SR3 sees racing game directional markers on-screen while driving so you're focused on the road, not the mini-map. 

The devs called the sprint button the awesome button, because when you're running and you do an action, you do something awesome. Enter a car while sprinting, you jump through a window. Attack someone while running and you do one of many finishing moves. 

The activities are a lot like the Kill Frenzies in GTA, but there's a lot more variety to them. SR3 is pretty stripped down, but SR2 had stuff like FUZZ, where you put on a police uniform and are tasked to perform various acts of brutality for a reality show. Insurance Fraud seems to be one of the most popular activities, which is hilariously broken in SR4. You hurl yourself into traffic and when your adrenaline level maxes out, you start bouncing around like a pinball (SR4's super-powers means you're always doing this).  If you haven't already met Angel, be prepare for perhaps the most literal interpretation of Eye of the Tiger. 

Starting with SR3, they gave themselves a license to do pretty much whatever they want regardless of whether it makes sense or not. Stands to reason since the last words of SR2 were, "this is our city, we do whatever the f**k we want to." 

Mostly, I think much of the fun of Saints Row is its a continuing story, instead of the same old rise to power scenario with new characters. 

And I'm holding out hope for an Assassin's Creed themed SR5... really, it's the only logical way to go :)
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I'm learning, albeit slowly, that this is a game that is antithetical to the way I normally choose to play video games.  I've mentioned many times in this thread that I love to play stealth, but you can rarely do that in this game.  As soon as you barely brush a cop, they're after you.  No real way to enter a situation without people knowing exactly where you are.  You can't hide.  There's nowhere to crouch and pick people off with a sniper gun (yet anyway) and often the best way to enter a scenario is to lob two or three grenades into a room or a rival gang to thin the herd.  I started off, as I always do, on hardcore because I love the challenge, but had to drop it down to the middle of the three difficulties because the bad guys just wouldn't go down.  The game has it's charms, however, which I'm learning as I go through it.  
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Honestly, hardcore mode is more frustrating than hard. 

There's a tipping point in the upgrade system where the difficulty gets trivial again... the game isn't designed to be balanced. 

The problem is any mission which requires the use of a particular vehicle. They're just way too fragile. I managed to do all the main game on hardcore, but I gave up on "Gangstas in Space" DLC which has a really long segment (without checkpoints) where you're chased by alien space ships. I tried numerous times, but I could never get the car to the next checkpoint. 

The main game isn't as bad, but there's quite a few frustrating bits on hardcore where you're pretty much at the mercy of luck. 
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Posted: 11 September 2013 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I've finally started to play Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn after dabbling in the beta version over the summer and dealing with the server issues and a overly lengthy wait courtesy of Amazon for the collector's edition to arrive at my doorstep.
The game is just simply perfect.. which unfortunately is also the worst thing about it as well. There is SO much to do, and all of it is fun, from going through the quest in the main storyline, to using the duty finder system to go through the countless dungeons with other players to just simply crafting leather or armor or anything else you can imagine. It's so much fun that time just flies by. You can log into the game at noon, and before you know it, 10 hours have passed because of the fun you can have while in the game.
If you like MMO's and/or RPGs, I would recommend this game only if you're really great at time management in your life. But IMO it is really fun!

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Doesn't Roddy Piper guest star in Saint's Row?
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Some of the notable guest-stars through-out the series. 

Roddy Piper, Hulk Hogan, Eliza Dushku, Mila Kunis, Keith David, Michael Dorn, Michael Duncan Clarke, Neil Patrick Harris, porn stars Sasha Grey & Tera Patrick, David Carradine, Tia Carrere, Daniel Dae Kim, Michael Rapaport, Jamie Pressly, Jay Mohr, and, of course, Nolan North.

That last guy is a prolific video game voice actor, which is sort of a joke in the most recent game.

I'm leaving out a major guest star in SR3 as Matt is currently playing it and it's a pretty big surprise. It is, however, the coolest thing ever.  
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Posted: 12 September 2013 at 10:12pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

RE: Saints Row The Third.  OK.  I'm officially hooked.  Really fun game. 
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REALLY want to get GTA V - the sandbox is huge, and you can do everything from steal military jets and airliners, to go jet-skiing and then have a shark eat you (so many things off the bucket list, right there...).

It's just a shame that so many of the characters in it seem to be totally unlikeable scumbags in this one. In previous titles (3 being one of my all-time favourite gaming experiences), it's all massively tongue-in-cheek, a parody of mob movies and the like. This time around, it seems to be trying to marry the aesthetic of grim, HBO-esque fare like 'The Sopranos' and 'Breaking Bad' with the kind of sophomoric gratuitous nasties from, say, 'True Romance' - and then dials the whole shebang up to 11. Case in point: the introduction to the player character 'Trevor' - just look it up. I don't mind playing as a law-breaker, or even indulging in some cathartically-amoral shenanigans. But some of these guys are just loathsome, and I just feel that's too far, especially for the character I'm supposed to be playing as/controlling. YMMV, obviously.



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...ok, might have found a 'best of both worlds solution': wait until it goes on sale/the beginning of October, and JUST play 'GTA Online'. Sure, I'm technically missing out on the single-player story, but to be honest, why would I want to spend 30+ hours playing some characters I can't identify with in the slightest (nor would I want to - even for cathartic purposes), when I can just create a 'blank slate', and get straight to free-roaming mayhem for the same amount of gameplay time?

All the fun of the GTA V toybox, with none of the 'meth addicts cutting guys up with a broken bottle' thrown in - see, that sounds much more like actual FUN to me.

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