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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 27 May 2010 at 9:19pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Ordered that aftermarket 1701-A bridge.

Hey, Bill--you seem like a pretty hardcore TREK model guy. Gimme a shout if ya ever wanna chat! I'd love to trade tips and info.

 

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Posted: 28 May 2010 at 7:02am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Greg, I'm more like a hardcore Trek model collector, than builder these days (no real free time, which is kinda a good thing given the economy)!   I do plan to get back into it with the 1/1000 kits (easily fit those on my crowded shelves).

Just did an inventory of my still-in-the-box Trek kits (alot of my built stuff didn't survive a move, and gave-away many unbuilt AMT/Ertl ones after a layoff years ago).  Still have an AMT/Ertl Enterprise 1701-B kit, 2 of the Bandai USS Enterprise prepainted & lightable Refit kits, one Bandai 1701-A kit, one Bandai 1701-E, and plenty of the Round2/Polar Lights 1/1000 TOS and Refits (not even touching the NX-01).  Still, those are far outnumbered by the anime models I've got stored away...

Just sent ya an email!

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Posted: 02 June 2010 at 4:19pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Been working on my 1/1000 1701-A. Hopefully, Round2 will offer those supplemental decals soon to cover some of the more subtle differences between the Refit and A.

I'm also really kinda liking the idea of Round2 reissuing the 1/1000 Ertl Excelsior--hopefully with improved tooling and decals.

That kit (which I built--poorly--when I was a kid) has a whole bunch of problems, and accurizing it is a mjor undertaking for any dedicated modeler. There are some aftermarket parts and decals out there for it, though.

 

I have a certain fondness for the Excelsior, you see. Before everyone jumps on me, allow me to explain--

I'm talking about the STAR TREK III Excelsior, the one designed as a joke. The ship was intended (within the story) to be Bigger! and Better! than good old Enterprise, but the reaction from our heroes (and many fans) was, "That's the future? No, thanks."

As a ridiculously oversized, overdetailed, Japanese-inspired (which is how ILM designer/modelmaker Bill George has desciribed it) "replacement" for the Enterprise, the design is great! And, after all the hype and buildup, the ship is ineffectual at capturing the battered, trusty Enterprise, thanks to Scotty's sabotage.

Of course, some (apparently even Harve Bennett) thought that our heroes would be given Excelsior in future films, or an Excelsior-class ship named Enterprise. Thankfully, that didn't happen.

However, TNG did establish that the Excelsior-class design was still in service nearly a century later, with nary a Constitution-class in sight. I'd chalk that up to time and budget issues. And an Excelsior-class Enterprise-B appeared in the conference room of 1701-D, a notion which was later confirmed in GENERATIONS (In a rather shocking turnaround, the design was now admired by Scotty--perhaps only because the name Enterprise graced its hull?).

Later on, due to the plot of STAR TREK VI including Sulu's Captaincy, he needed a ship. I personally think that Excelsior was chosen for budget and time reasons, and so the design was fully "legitimized" with that film.

And, pretty much since then, the Excelsior design has been embraced by a good many fans, despite having been intended as, well, a JOKE.

Anyhoo, I think I'd enjoy modeling the jokey NX-2000 version for ST III in the same scale as my 1/1000 ships, to provide a nice design contrast, and for the challenge.



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Posted: 02 June 2010 at 6:30pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

My aftermarket resin replacement bridge part for the 1/1000 Refit arrived today!  I'm no expert when it comes to accurate detail comparisions between the Round 2 kit and the filming miniature, but it's nice to now have a molded bridge docking port that was missing from the original piece.  And that ugly Officers Lounge plug is gone too!

I may have to save this for Refit #3, since it requires careful removing of the entire molded bridge superstructure from the upper saucer section part.

Speaking of the Excelsior, I've still have one of the old FASA Star Trek gaming miniatures (in desperate need of Space Dock)!

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Glad that you like the replacement part, Bill. I've got two on the way, myself!
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Posted: 02 June 2010 at 6:52pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Both opaque, or are you going for one lighted version?

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Posted: 02 June 2010 at 7:20pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Opaque.

I'm not skilled/crazy enough to try lighting a model that small! Also, I've never lit a model!

If I were to light a model, it would definitely be the 1/350 kit, which is ideal for superdetailing and lighting. The gold standard is the TrekModeler stuff, with the lighting kit that can switch from impulse to warp mode, which just blows my mind.

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=233891

http://www.youtube.com/user/TrekModeler#p/u

 

For my builds, I'm going to do NCC-1701-A (specifically, the ST VI version), as a test run, then the Refit. I'll use the stock decals for the "A", and the aztec painting masks and photoetch upgrades for the Refit, with pearlescent paints.

I also plan on doing the "A" in the normal post-TMP impulse mode--blue deflector dish, "lit" impulse engines, and powered-down warp nacelles.

For the Refit, I'll do it in warp mode--blue deflector dish, powered-down impulse engines, "lit" inboard nacelles.

I considered doing an impulse-mode TMP version, with the amber deflector dish and glowing red impulse crystal, but I prefer the warp-mode look with the blue dish and illuminated nacelles.



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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 12:10pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Hey Greg, I take it you've already seen this aftermarket correction kit pre-order for the 1/1000 Excelsior / Enterprise-B? 

http://www.starshipmodeler.biz/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=pro duct.display&product_ID=1525&ParentCat=38

I'm kinda tempted since I already have the -B, and hated the way the neck parts are molded.

Edit - Hmmm... Seems a bit old for a pre-order...



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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 12:43pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Yep. But I'll hold off until such time as Round2 reissues the kit, I think. I'm wondering if some of the aftermarket aztec decals will fit the aftermarket lower saucer, too.

 

Also, I'm thrilled that Acreation Models is now offering full aztec and strongback replacement decals for the TMP Refit and 1701-A, and will also soon be offering alternate registries and other goodies! I've already ordered one set of each aztec upgrade set. I still plan on painting my TMP model's aztecs, but the corrected strongbacks and sensor bands are too good to pass up on!

http://www.acreationmodels.com/decals.asp#PL1000REFIT



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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 6:57pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

That 1/350 TMP model build from Trekmodeler is done, complete with detailed aztec paint and internal lights.

(*drool*)

http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/trekmodeler/Star%20Tre k%20TMP%20USS%20ENTERPRISE/



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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 9:47pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I went ahead and ordered the -A aztec upgrade decals from Acreation (I assume we don't need to order the -A strongback decals since that's apparently already in the set).

I had previously ordered an aftermarket -A strongback & registry decals from the Starship Modeler Store for the Refit kit, but they ended up being a rather inferior printing job compared to the ones supplied with the model.  The strong back decals were a bit too TMP green for the -A as well.

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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 10:01pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

My story exactly, Bill.

Mind you, though--the strongback correction decals from SSM are INTENDED to be TMP-style, hence the strong green tint.

The strongback pattern changed slightly when the model was repainted for ST IV.

The kit, which is supposed to represent the Refit, actually features some detailing and colors that are closer to the "A". In the case of the strongback, the kit decals have the "A" pattern, but are colored with a greenish TMP tint. Hence the aftermarket SSM decals, which feature the TMP pattern and a stronger green tint.

If you compare Acreation's sample images, you can see the difference in the patterns, obvious color difference aside.

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