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I've noticed a trend in current comics (from the last 6 years) where an artist will draw a Marvel character with facial features that are similar to a real life actor. Bryan Hitch's Nick Fury (= Samuel Jackson) is one of the funner examples! With that in mind, did Jack Kirby reference current actors from the 60's when he drew the faces of Reed, Sue, Ben and Johnny? And if so, which actors? Or are they just fictionalized composites from Kirby's imagination? And what about Joe Sinnott? Were his inks over Kirby intended to reference popular actors? Which ones? Or was this again a fictionalized composite?
Thanks! :-)
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John Byrne
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Kirby had a "repetoire company" of faces that he cycled 'round and 'round. His Ben Grimm face, for instance, had previously turned up in SKY MASTERS and CHALLENGERS OF THE UNKNOWN, to name but two instances. There's a bit of John Garfield in that face, so it's possible Kirby was "casting", but I am not aware of him ever having said so explicitly.
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Thanks, JB!
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I read in one of my old Jack Kirby books that he said that he liked Jimmy Cagney and the films stars of his time so there you go.
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Jason Czeskleba
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I've read that Barda was inspired by Lainie Kazan. But that may have been more her body than her face...
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I read that somewhere also about Lanie Kazan. I can see both body as well a face for Barda, especially if Kirby was using a young Kazan for inspiration. I find it funny that most comic artists & readers today are into picturing characters based on current faces & body types and seem unable picture characters, especially a lot of the older characters, any other way.
Edited by Ray Dyas on 15 August 2009 at 3:14pm
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Ray Dyas wrote:
| especially if Kirby was using a young Kazan for inspiration |
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In 1970 there was no other kind.
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In 1970 there was no other kind.
Of course I would assume both you & I and many others on the forum would know that, but as I inferred in the post above you might be surprised at how many people would immediately think of how she looks now when her name is mentioned...
 
...rather than her how she once looked. Must be the generational thing.
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Your quote naming Kazan, or at least a version of it, was in "Tales to Astonish: Jack Kirby, Stan Lee and the American Comic Book Revolution". Otherwise, I would have probably guessed Raquel Welch.
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That being said, I'm convinced that Jack was struck by "The
Day the Earth Stood Still"'s Michael Rennie when he was
putting a face to Reed Richards.
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