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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 20 March 2014 at 9:54pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

(ALIEN 3 actually played this card, with Ripley finding herself
"impregnated." After all, nothing in the second movie said she
WASN'T...)
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Correction--Ripley is said to have been impregnated after ALIENS,
when the Plot Contrivance Facehugger causes the Sulaco to
crash, and breaks into her cryotube.

The real use of the "card" would be "well, nowhere in ALIENS was it
said that the Queen DIDN'T lay an egg aboard the Sulaco"...during
the five minutes it was aboard. And fighting Ripley the whole time.
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I missed the point in the film that stated the film was only three decades
prior to ALIEN. Prometheus got it wrong.
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Welllll....it's not stated specifically in the film proper, but that was the
idea.

However, calendar year is stated in the film to be 2094.

In ALIENS, Ripley makes a reference to Burke's order to the colony as
being dated 6/12/79. Backtracking 57 years from that places ALIEN in
2122.

So, assuming that ALIEN doesn't take place in 2022 or 2222, that's a
gap of 28 years between PROMETHEUS and ALIEN.
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Greg: The real use of the "card" would be "well, nowhere in ALIENS was it 
said that the Queen DIDN'T lay an egg aboard the Sulaco"...during 
the five minutes it was aboard. And fighting Ripley the whole time
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And without its egg sack. Don't forget it lost its egg sack.
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There's also the fact that only one Facehugger seemingly impregnated
both the dog and Ripley.

The original/DVD Extended cut explained this by introducing the
SuperFacehugger, a bigger, armored version which carried multiple
embryos, as well as the all-important Queen embryo.

The theatrical version, however, only presents us with one normal
Facehugger, so the whole thing makes even less sense.


...and that's why the series should have ended with ALIENS!
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And maybe this discussion should end here -- or at least go to its own thread!
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TRUE GRIT (201)

Very slow - and boring in places - but solid, nonetheless. I do like slow-burning films, but I was looking at my watch at times.

It's the performances, including the then-14 year old Hailee Steinfeld, which made the movie better for me.
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TRUE GRIT

If I had magical powers, I would transfer the LOOK of the remake to the original film. And, yes, Hailee Steinfeld was excellent, and better casting than Kim Darby, but I like Kim Darby in the original, so I don't think I would extend my magical powers in that direction.

After seeing both, I read the book, and, apart from the ending, was surprised to find the John Wayne version a much more faithful adaptation. (The original TRUE GRIT movie is not unfaithful to the book's ending per se, it just stops before it gets to it!)

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I really need to track down the book at some point. Been on my "reading list" for a very long time. 

Transferring the look of the remake to the original film gets my vote, sir. :)
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Transferring the look of the remake to the original film gets my vote, sir. :)

I wonder if something like that would be possible, given today's technology. Washing out selective colors, for instance.

Hmmm........

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Wow. Just...wow. Thank you. :)

I'm no expert on movie technology, but I'd like to think it was possible.
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PROMETHEUS (2012)

*SPOILERS*

Fuck me!

Can't fault the visuals. Or some of the performances. And I am a fan of Charlize Theron. But this, which I believe is a prequel to ALIENS, introduced far too many questions, explained little and, well, I'm a tad confused (why did that alien swallow that shit at the beginning, was he starting life, committing suicide, doing something else?).

I'm told a sequel will answer the questions. Sorry, but I bought the DVD, surely my cash entitled me to some answers RIGHT NOW, rather than waiting a few years for a sequel.

I've sat through worse films. If I were handing out awards for special effects, lighting, music, etc, I'd hand one out. But I am feeling unfulfilled.

One last point: was there a yearning by the world's seven billion people for an ALIEN prequel?
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ROLLERBALL (1975) & THE PRODUCERS (1968)

A decidedly odd double-feature, in that order. Decided to watch the first after seeing a trailer for THE HUNGER GAMES 2, and sensing many of its basic concepts seemed to be lifted from the earlier film. Catching a few moments of the musical version of THE PRODUCERS made me feel the need to cleanse with a viewing of the original. (Sorry, I know a great many people love the musical, but I find it heavy handed and crude.)

Anyway, hadn't watched either in a while. ROLLERBALL holds up largely on the strength of James Caan's subtle performance. His Jonathan E is obviously brain damaged from too many years in the game, and watching him struggle to understand what's happening around him is a real master class. Strong supporting cast, too.

On the other hand, I generally draw a line thru Mel Brooks' career, dividing his movies (with some fudging) into those made before the beans scene in BLAZING SADDLES, and those made after. THE PRODUCERS is from the earlier group, and is actually quite sophisticated.

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