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Joakim Jahlmar
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Posted: 12 November 2008 at 2:02pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Nice thread. Thanks for starting it up, JB.
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Posted: 12 November 2008 at 2:30pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Noticed about half and half with the white/black mat. I can't decide what
looks best, what do you guys think?



My personal choice for black and white art is a black matt in a black frame.

While on the subject, I have noticed that some of you matt the pieces with
the art in front of the matt. This seems to mostly happen when I break
the border and carry element of the art off the board -- but, in fact, I think
of all the pieces as being framed under the matt. I like the idea of the
matt's inner edge "cropping" the extended art, even if it's only a tiny bit.
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Posted: 12 November 2008 at 2:41pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

but, in fact, I think
of all the pieces as being framed under the matt. I like the idea of the
matt's inner edge "cropping" the extended art, even if it's only a tiny bit.

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JB, are you saying that that you would think it's better to have the mat extend to cover the copyright notice and border or right before that?  Not sure I understand.  Thanks.
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It would be difficult to cover the copyright notice, since it's so close to the
border and the border is ragged.

I meant just the outermost edge of the piece -- 8th of an inch, maybe. I
sort of like the illusion that the art actually extends beyond the matt, which
would be the effect, I think, with those where the art goes off the board.

No big, tho. Customer's choice.
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David Suiter
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Posted: 12 November 2008 at 3:05pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Are the commission sizes standard frame sizes? Or do the commissioners get custom frames?
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Gerry Turnbull
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both my framed Byrne pages are custom made for the art.(all of my frames are made for the specific piece actually)
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Mine was custom-made as well. Since we're on the topic, I love telling this story:
The framer saw the art and asked me "Is this a print? because whenever I see one of these, there's a number on the bottom like 1 out of 5000 or something". I told him "No it's not a print, this is the actual art, and will never be printed elsewhere, so it's actually number 1 of 1."
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Posted: 12 November 2008 at 4:37pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Are standard size frames available?
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Scott Green
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All of my pieces were framed with 1/8 of the art behind the matt.  I love how John extended the art outside of the his border, so I wanted to show as much as possible. 
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Brad Brickley
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Posted: 12 November 2008 at 10:21pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

That's what I was thinking, thanks for clarifying.  
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Mark McKay
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I like to frame pages of original art in front of the mat, because the production process is an element that is of interest to me. I would probably frame a commission under the mat, I think, because it's meant to be art hanging on the wall, rather than for print.
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jose alicea
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Posted: 23 November 2008 at 1:44pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

WOW.Those commissions are amazing.John never fails.
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Speaking as an ex-professional picture framer, for 20x30 art, it could be matted into a 24x36 frame, if you don't mind the mat being somewhat uneven. One could make the top and sides even at 2" apiece, and the bottom would be 4", which is known in the industry as a "weighted" bottom. That particular practice got started when it became apparent that hanging art high up on a very tall wall made the bottom of the mat look narrower than the other three sides, thanks to foreshortening. At least, that's how it was explained to me, although I would think that the top of the mat would look even narrower, but what the hey. If you can find a frame that works with your art, a ready-made frame is certainly the economical choice.

If the virtues of acid-free mats haven't already been made known to you, I highly recommend them, especially with regards to original art. Most paper contains lignin, which is an acidic substance that is responsible for the yellowing of paper over time. Even though white paper has been bleached to remove most of the lignin, enough remains for the yellowing to occur. The acid-free mats contain alkaline substances that help to combat this process.

U/V protective, or ultraviolet protective, glass is also a good choice for artwork protection. The vast majority of the fading of pigments can be attributed to the ultraviolet spectrum of light. To help reduce this, U/V glass has been treated with a special film that blocks up to 98% of the available U/V rays, depending on the source. Direct sunlight will still fade artwork, even with this glass, so be wary of the frame salesman who will assure you that the hyper-expensive "museum glass" will protect the art from direct sunlight. Pure hyperbole. The sun is nasty to art, and nothing short of opaque products will protect it, and that doesn't promote viewing. U/V protective glass is for places where low-level direct lighting and high-level indirect lighting is all that will touch your art.

I noticed that some of the art posted here appears to be framed in non-glare glass. Unless this is also U/V treated, it is actually worse for your art than regular glass. Think about it. Instead of reflecting the light back, it's refracting more of it onto the art, and although visible light doesn't do as much damage as U/V rays, it will still contribute to fading.

Since this is turning into a very long post, I'll simply close with this: There is a professional organization, the PPFA (Professional Picture Framers Association) that is dedicated to the promotion and advancement of picture framing techniques. Any frame shop that boasts a Certified Picture Framer is completely versed in conservation framing, and any piece that is framed using conservation methods by such an individual is likely to ensure that the art will keep in its present condition for decades.

Hope this helped.


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Posted: 24 November 2008 at 5:44am | IP Logged | 14 post reply

Great advice, Stephen.  Thank you for the post!
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Wilson Mui
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Here are my pieces....

When I hung up the Spider-Man piece in my kid's playroom, my daughter told me I had it upside-down.



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Maybe put the Spider-Man on the ceiling, then it'd look right!
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Clint Ludwick
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Posted: 09 December 2008 at 8:15am | IP Logged | 17 post reply

Brad....pretty cool idea!
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Genius!  
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Clint Ludwick
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updated pic on page 3.

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Bill Brown
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any special sequence here Clint?  Like, so the frames spell words or something (LOL)?



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Actually, I tried to do my best to rotate "classic" monster, Marvel monster, "classic" monster, etc....if that makes sense.

The question is....other than Ghost Rider, who's missing? I know 1 will be a surprise!

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"The question is....other than Ghost Rider, who's missing? I know 1 will be a surprise!"

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A surprise to you or a surprise to us?  Are you asking for more suggestions?  I always have ideas...

Oh, and they look awesome together on the wall!  Great job!


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Joakim Jahlmar
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Awesome wall, Clint!!!

And if I count correctly, there'll be two more "classic" monsters and one more Marvel monster.  Beats me what they'll be though, but as always looking forward to seeing them. :)
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Haha..i know, i know!  Clint has some inspired ideas.
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Shogun Warriors

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