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Brian Talley Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 6:51pm | IP Logged | 1
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Articles at Occasional Superheroine, LITG, and The Beat tell of retailers being told to destroy all copies of ASBAR #10 over content problems. The problem.....profanity....and lots of it. You can start here....
http://occasionalsuperheroine.blogspot.com/2008/09/asbar-10- and-coming-comics-witchhunt.html#links
What is going on in the heads of those responsible for this thing getting as far as it did?
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Michael Huber Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 7:01pm | IP Logged | 2
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Millers lost his mind and gone up river into North Vietnam. Where;s Martin Sheen when you need him?
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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 8030
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | 3
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Yeah, a buddy of mine told me about this yesterday. Unbelievable.
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Mike Farley Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 7:06pm | IP Logged | 4
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While I totally agree that Miller has long since lost it I don't actually see this as directly his fault. The censor bars that were supposed to cover the profanity didn't print properly. My question is why the letterer typed the actual profanity at all sicne it was just going to be covered up? Why type anything?
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Brian Talley Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 7:08pm | IP Logged | 5
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Miller isn't good enough that he couldn't tell the story without the words in question?
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Simon Bowland Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 7:18pm | IP Logged | 6
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It's something that the letterer should have known about, in all honesty. If you mix up your rich blacks from your 100% K blacks then trouble is always a possibility. Bit of a rookie error as well, I'm surprised it's happened in such a high profile book.
That said, whether the words are blacked out or not, it's not the kind of language you should be seeing - or not seeing - in a comic with the word "Batman" in the title. This, from a company which felt unable to publish "The Boys" after its sixth issue? Crazy world. I like Frank Miller's work on the whole, but I've never been able to understand what the point has been with the (hopelessly behind schedule) "All-Star Batman and Robin".
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Bruce Buchanan Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 7:18pm | IP Logged | 7
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Yeah, that's my issue, too. Why use that type of language in a Batman comic book at all?
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Craig Bogart Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 7:45pm | IP Logged | 8
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So... DC generates a ton of publicity for themselves and attention for this wretched comic, and retailers who are instructed to destroy their copies are left holding an ebay gold mine (check the listings).
what a happy accident for all concerned that this slipped by all those editorial eyes.
me, I'm never buying a damn DC comic again.
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Daniel Kendrick Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 8:03pm | IP Logged | 9
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Newsarama.com has an example scan up of what happened.
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Brian Peck Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 8:24pm | IP Logged | 10
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You can't blame the letterer for this. His job is to letter whatever the writer
sends him, its not his job to second guess the writer. Don't use the excuse
of the printing either, the content is the issue, doesn't matter
if its covered with black bars or not, you know what it means. I don't think
the language belongs in the all ages comic. Basically, the buck stops with
Frank Miller period.
Edited by Brian Peck on 10 September 2008 at 8:26pm
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Don Mayer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 8:27pm | IP Logged | 11
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me, I'm never buying a damn DC comic again. *****
Because of the issue caused by profanity.
That made me chuckle.
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 8:30pm | IP Logged | 12
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I agree with Craig. This was not an accident. It's just a new low in the stunt/gimmick/manufactured collector's item world that today's superhero comics exist in.
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