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Tom Aquin Byrne Robotics Member
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Depends on the story. But I tend to prefer realistic than cartoony, unless is someone like Darwyn Cooke or Bruce Timm, which are just Comic Book Art gods.
I can't stand Marc Hempel's art in The Kindly Ones, for instance. It doesn't ruin the story because I don't think even Rob Liefeld could ruin something written by Neil Gaiman, but it looks terrible there.
Also, I really like Kyle Baker. But he was completely unsuited for The Truth miniseries from a few years ago.
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Kevin Brown Byrne Robotics Member
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I'm generally a fan of all types of art styles. It truly depends on the story being told, the character, etc.
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George Lee Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 March 2008 at 10:28pm | IP Logged | 3
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Of the two choices, I prefer my superheroes to be rendered in the
"realism" style by far.
To name a few that I consider realism (for comic books): JB, Perez, Neal
Adams, Joe Kubert, John Buscema, John Romita Sr.
Alex Ross, whose work I enjoy, clearly is realism, but not a style I want to
see on a regular ongoing title (if I were to follow one).
Frank Miller, Mike Mignola, JR Jr, even Walt Simonson to some degree, are
so stylized that I don't think of them when someone says "realism". But I
like all of their work.
It took me forever to get into the Bruce Timm Batman, Superman, JLA
cartoons. I don't want to see comic books rendered in that style.
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Chad Carter Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 March 2008 at 10:35pm | IP Logged | 4
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It's so difficult to say...even the style of "realism" doesn't seem realistic. David Mazzuchelli and Sean Phillips and the like, I'd call them "realistic" and yet they're highly stylized. Steve Epting, Steve Sadowski, Paul Pellitier, Alan Davis...
Then there's the Eric Powell, Mike Mignola, Jack Kirby, Darwyn Cooke types.
I think I'm drawn to a strong graphic style, with dynamism and a sure line, no matter which end of the spectrum. It's always best when the artists in question serve the characters instead of the other way around...it is after all the emphasis of a strong story and plot melded with an artist who can pull off that story in the best possible graphic manner, in the "language" of comic books.
Bottom line, I guess, I was always a Jack Kirby guy, so I'll always be on that end of the pool first, and take my dives into the other end while always returning to the starting point. So that's pretty ingrained.
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Thom Price Byrne Robotics Member
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As a very general rule, I prefer a cartoony style for superhero comics. But that preference for me is so vaguely defined as to be meaningless; it all comes down to the individual artists. Obviously I would rather see a great artist with a realistic style than a mediocre artist with a cartoony style. Of the original examples in this thread though, the Bruce Timm drawing "popped" for me the most -- and not just because it's the only one in color. (Damn, that man draws some sexy women.)
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Troy Nunis Byrne Robotics Member
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I think there has to be some degree of balance between Cartoony and Realism - Real enough to give weight and seriousness to the story and Cartooned enough to make it Dynamic. I'm less fond of the Abstracts since they seem to be the antithesis to Storytelling, which is the First goal of comic art.
Pitfalls of Extreme Realism are when characters wind up looking like dumpy real people dressed up LIKE superheroes, with wrinkles and shines and moving about like lumps of clay.
Cartoony goes to far, of course, when everything looks funny, even when it's not supposed to.
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Eric Russ Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 March 2008 at 10:54pm | IP Logged | 7
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Who did that Hawkman drawing?
Steve Swanson -
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Brian has it right, Steve. That is Jose Garcia Lopez.
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Eric Russ Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 March 2008 at 11:04pm | IP Logged | 8
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It's so difficult to say...even the style of "realism" doesn't seem realistic
Chad Carter
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I know what you mean. I was thinking along those lines when I was
posting the Bill Sienkiewicz piece.
Realism, abstract, cartoony in the world of the arts it is all relative to the
artist and the viewer.
I know what you mean by "graphic" as well. That probably would have
been a more beneficial title to the thread in hindsight. Because I consider
John Romita Jr. not as cartoony as Bruce Timm but not as "real" as say a Jose Garcia Lopez. I see him as being within the dynamic of being more
graphic like Walt Simonson.
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Eric Russ Byrne Robotics Member
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Just to credit the artist -
Top - Jason Pearson, Bruce Timm, Frank Miler
Middle - John Buscema, Jose Garcia Lopez
Bottoem - Bill Sienkiewicz
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Steve Swanson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 March 2008 at 11:29pm | IP Logged | 10
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Thanks Brian!
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Eric Russ Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 March 2008 at 11:32pm | IP Logged | 11
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My appeal for "cartoony" comes from a lecture by a Disney animator at
my college. He said that (and I am paraphrasing) "Your throwing of a
frisbee may be a distance of 20-30 feet but in animation we like to
exaggerate the action. Therefore the distance will not be 20 feet but
more like 200."
There lies my appeal. I really like the "cartoony." Even when it comes
down to "real world" stories. As much as the action can be
expressed/exaggerated I think it works the same when conveying
emotions and moods.
1st Image - Shane Glines
2nd Image Glen Keane -
Edited by Eric Russ on 03 March 2008 at 11:33pm
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Gary S. Lee Byrne Robotics Member
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All styles of art appeal to me if they're done well and are functional. Bad cartoony art is, in the end, bad art--same as realistic.
G.
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