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Cory Vandernet
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Posted: 29 August 2006 at 12:30am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I was cleaning out my studio closet today and stumbled onto this. Cyclops robot? Any memories? I racked my brains and drew a blank.

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I don't recall the Cyclops robot -- but three things leap out at me immediately. First is how small the Dark Phoenix storyline was at that point. Second is that "breather" planned for 145. That was one of a Chris' odder notions, on both IRON FIST and X-MEN -- that after building to some cataclysmic point we should "step back" and "allow the readers to catch their breath". Since "every issue is the first issue for somebody" had already been thoroughly pounded into my skull, I never entirely agreed with this idea. What if the "breather" is the point at which a flock of people decide to check out the issue for the first time? Not knowing this is a change of pace issue, will they be inspired to come back?

Something else that jumps out at me is the "death of Mariko" referece. That was going to be a hugely powerful story. In fact, when this list was made, with the death of Phoenix not even in the cards yet, it was probably the most powerful story we had planned.

(Those interested in Cosmic Events can note that I somehow managed to leave out issue 143 from the list. In 1979, when I jotted all this down, I had no way of knowing that would be my last issue!)

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Posted: 29 August 2006 at 5:03am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Four issues planned for the Cyclops Robot, and no recollection at all?
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Troy Nunis
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i once knew someone who insisted Cyclops was a robot -- as proof of this, he produced an issue where Cyclops says he was Programed by Prof. X . . . yes, i've known some stupid people.

Very intersting list to look back at - to see how things were planned differant.

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Stéphane Garrelie
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Arcade II is were I began to follow the serie. But here in France we got it in December 1981.
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Who's Ariel?
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Ariel is Shadowcat.
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Brian Sagar
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Just curious...  What would/could you do for a 'breather' issue?  Are breather issues why we ended up with, for example, the X-Men playing baseball (post-JB)? 

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That cyclops saying I'm a robot programed by Prof X is awesome. They should use that. I just read art of JB lately, and the X-Men were suposed to fight a mix of Ultron and the Sentinels right? 
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Dave Carr
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I was about to ask what Sabretooth would have looked like if JB had co-created him, and then suddenly remembered that he did in Iron Fist.  He's been so wound up in the X-Men mythos since the Mutant Massacre storyline that I forgot he was originally an Iron Fist villain.
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Posted: 29 August 2006 at 7:34am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Bloody hell! What a great little scrap of paper to happen upon!
And what an interesting series of stories this would have been to read:
the team splits up, the X-Men vs Ultron, etc.

I wonder how much those comics are selling in that alternate universe
where they were published?

And on the matter of "breather" issues, I thought the "X-Men in Japan"
was a sort of breather issue, in that it was a single issue story that acted
as a break between "X-Men in the Savage Land" and "X-Men vs Alpha
Flight," and all that was happening between those story lines.

And Cory, is this JB's writing or someone else's?
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Cory Vandernet
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Posted: 29 August 2006 at 9:13am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

It's John's hand-writing on a page ripped from one of his old sketchbooks. It's not from the one I own or I'd have remembered it. So this page hasn't seen the light of day for some 27 years.

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