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Rich Marzullo
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Posted: 01 September 2012 at 5:30pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Hummina hummina hummina! In other words, amazing piece!
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Sean Watson
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Posted: 01 September 2012 at 7:11pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Very nice indeed! 
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Michael Arndt
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Posted: 01 September 2012 at 7:17pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Great looking commission.
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Lars Sandmark
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Posted: 01 September 2012 at 8:47pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply


As if we need any more confirmation that John Byrne draws these characters better than ANYONE, he knocks another one out of the park!
I love AF!
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David Philpott
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Posted: 02 September 2012 at 12:03am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

It looks amazing. It comes across as very 3-D. Sasquatch up front and the heavy storm above. Thanks for the last week John .The two best art days ever ! Seeing them both matched the excitement I got from reading those issues.
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William Roberge
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Posted: 02 September 2012 at 5:50am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Well done!

JB, in the case of falling snow (When the snow is over a black back ground), did you use liquid mask ?

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John Byrne
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JB, in the case of falling snow (When the snow is over a black back ground), did you use liquid mask ?

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Yup.

As many of you already know, I don't like using white-out on commissions, since it yellows and cracks over time. Liquid mask, which paints on and then rubs off, is the perfect solution.

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Posted: 02 September 2012 at 6:11am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

John,  

It must have been fun for you to bring, not just one, but a group of Canadian heroes into the Marvel universe. Do you have any memories about their creation or the storyline you can share?
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It must have been fun for you to bring, not just one, but a group of Canadian heroes into the Marvel universe. Do you have any memories about their creation or the storyline you can share?

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I'm not really much of a flag-waver, and when I was living in Canada I was even less so. Canadians tend to practice a much more low key form of patriotism than do Americans!

The idea for a Canadian superhero coming after Wolverine was actually Dave Cockrum's. When he was pencilling and co-plotting X-MEN, he reasoned that the Canadian government would probably be not at all thrilled at an agent they'd spent millions of dollars developing had skipped off to join an American team. Chris and Dave didn't get around to this story during their first tenure, but it was one of the first Chris mentioned to me when I came aboard.

After Guardian made his debut, and proved popular with the fans, it was only natural to start planning a "return engagement", and since Chris had tossed the "Alpha Flight" reference into the first story*, that was the obvious direction in which to go.

Developing the characters to be in that team became my job. Of course I brought back Guardian** and resurrected the name Snowbird, another fan character I'd introduced in a strip I did in my college newspaper. Then it was a case of coming up with some other characters who could go toe-to-toe with the X-Men. Sasquatch was created to counter Colossus, Shaman (originally called "Chinook", and strictly a weather-wizard) for Storm, and the super-fast twins to balance Nightcrawler's teleporting abilities. And I was stuck with both "Alpha Flight" and Chris' name for Guardian, Vindicator. (Easily one of the dumbest superhero names, like, ev-er. What the heck does Canada have to "vindcate"? It wasn't until Alpha got their own book that I was able to explain the name contextually, AND convince Marvel to let me restore his true name.)

To say that that the fan reception to Alpha Flight was positive would be like saying a man in the path of a tidal wave was in danger of becoming "moist". It was a torrent, an earthquake, a major volcanic eruption. In a nutshell, you guys seemed to like 'em. So there was immediate pressure from On High to give the team its own book. Since they were mostly ciphers to me -- Jean-Marie didn't have her MPD yet, Jean-Paul wasn't Gay, Snowbird did not have her mystical history, etc -- I wasn't really interested, but Marvel kept the pressure up, and eventually I caved.

That meant turning these two-dimensional punching bags into three-dimensional characters, and that's how the attributes mentioned above came into play. Marina and Puck were introduced at Shooter's suggestion. Always eager to spend Marvel's money, he told me that if I added some new characters when Alpha got their own title, I would be eligible for the "creator's cut" of the profits (such as it was). So, since the Canadian national motto is a mare usque ad mare ("From sea to sea") I came up with a water-based character, and Puck.... well. . . . . .

(Don Thompson, publisher of THE COMIC BUYER'S GUIDE, would write a review of ALPHA FLIGHT in which he scoffed at Puck. He decried it as a stupid name for a superhero, and said when he first heard it, he had assumed the character would have something to do with "Robin Goodfellow", Puck of "A Midsummer Night's Dream". Cuz, you know, that just SCREAMS "Canada".)†

The book was a success, and Marvel's biggest seller in several decades. But I wasn't really entirely happy there. The characters hadn't been created by Stan and Jack and Steve and the rest, so they weren't "real" to me. I did everything I could to boost my excitement and interest, but, alas, the fire never quite caught.

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* First time I ever saw the name was when I read the published issue! Didn't like it then, still don't!

**His original name, as a fan character, and would have been his name right from the start but for the fact that Marvel was then publishing the Guardians of the Galaxy, and it was decided giving Mac that name would be "too confusing". The amount of effort put into worrying about what would "confuse" the readers back then was truly staggering. We could us a bit of it these days!

† Among the most amateurish "reviews" are those that take the for of "This is not what I thought it would be, and so it is WRONG!"

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David Philpott
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Posted: 02 September 2012 at 8:09am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Storm's foot ?
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Jason Mark Hickok
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Posted: 02 September 2012 at 8:14am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Thanks for that reply, JB. Posts like that with that kind of info are one of the reasons I keep coming to this forum.

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Mike Purdy
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Posted: 02 September 2012 at 9:19am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Did you ever toy with giving Alpha Flight another name? 
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