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James Woodcock
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“You look at the early comic books of Spider-Man and what was so great about what Stan Lee and Steve Ditko did was they said what if one of the most powerful heroes we have is a high school kid who also has to do homework and isn't a billionaire, or isn't a genius scientist, or isn't a trained assassin, or isn't another scientist who had an accident but is a kid?” Feige explained
“Peter Parker has stepped up,” writer Dan Slott says. “He’s grown. He’s become the Peter Parker we’ve always hoped he was going to be. This company, with Peter’s inventions and Peter’s gumption has gone to new heights.”
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Mark Haslett
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Can you at least give some context? It sounds like these two may be talking about completely different Spider-Man projects.
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John Byrne
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The are -- but I'll bet they don't think they are. Slott, of course, expresses the all too common fannish position the Change Is Good! And a quick review of the last forty years or so shows us how well that has worked out!
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Jesus Garcia
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It NEVER ceases to amaze me how so many people think of Peter Parker as ordinary: it's established in his very first adventure that he's a science whiz -- probably a genius.
And he's smart enough to invent gadgets to supplement his power; he's not the Amazing Leaping Spider-Man, after all.
A mindset that actually devotes itself to invention is also outstanding: so many people would rather be sheep/consumers than leaders/producers.
My reading is that Peter would have been extraordinary even without the powers. Also, when Ben told Peter him about "with great power ... responsibility", Ben was speaking of Peter's intellect, not his mutation.
Peter is not ordinary, but his life and circumstances prior to his mutation were.
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Michael Roberts
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They are positioning Miles Morales to be the teenage Spider-Man, so they are turning Peter into Tony Stark.
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John Byrne
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My reading is that Peter would have been extraordinary even without the powers. Also, when Ben told Peter him about "with great power ... responsibility", Ben was speaking of Peter's intellect, not his mutation.••• That's not how it plays in the original story.
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Bob Simko
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"Stepped up" Spider-man
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Eric Ladd
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This Spider-Man can "Step Off, ya mimbo". A few years ago I thought the shark had been jumped when Stark made the Spider-Armor. Now we have jumped back over Bruce in the other direction with Peter creating his own company. For Dog's sake, it's even called Parker Industries?! How similar can we get. Oh wait, the article tells us it will be just like Stark Industries with less angst. Oh joy!
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Peter Martin
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Yep. In the real world, inventing webshooters and spider-tracers at home with little to no resources would make him a peerless genius, but as originally presented, he is the smart kid at school.
I would say he was intended to strike a familiar note with younger readers, not be so brilliant that he is in fact outside the realms of the reader's experience.
And then he's bitten by a radioactive spider.
Excitement and adventure ensues.
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Peter Martin
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Spider-Man to be explained as being the bodyguard of Peter Parker. Where do they get these ideas? So inventive.
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Michael Roberts
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As much as I hate the idea of Spider-Man being a legacy hero (and the idea of legacy heroes in general), I've come around to the idea that Spider-Man really only works as a teenager/young adult. Once Peter was aged past a certain point, the original concept of Spider-Man was broken, and short of a CRISIS-style reboot, there's no unringing of that bell. So might as well bring in an actual teenage Spider-Man and let Peter graduate into Tony Stark than continue trying to write Peter as an adult with adolescent problems.
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Jason Larouse
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short of a CRISIS-style reboot
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That's what they're doing right now. Unfortunately they seem to be using it as an excuse to drift further and further from how the characters should be instead of closer.
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