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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 4:57pm | IP Logged | 1  

Here's a letter I sent to some magazines, like "Wizard" and "Comics & Games Retailer" and such:

THE SHAPE OF THE FUTURE!

For years, I have been discussing how the comic book industry seriously needs to look hard at changing the format of comic books with anyone who would listen. In order to get comics in the hands of more readers, and in more retail outlets, I feel some drastic measures must be taken to ensure the market continues to endure in an ever-changing marketplace.

 
This past weekend, I got in a copy of "Wizard" #179, and noted its' change in format, and thought, "They seem to get it!" You see, the publication, up until now, has always been roughly the same dimensions as a Silver-Age comic book. The new format is more like a magazine-size, like "Time." This convinced me that others may be thinking along the same line as I am thinking.
 
Basically, I believe that its' in the best interest of the comic industry to change all comics formats to match the dimensions and page count of the standard magazine. This serves a number of purposes. First, the larger size will allow comics to be displayed along with any other magazine at bookstores, newsstands, grocery stores, and the like. Because of this, newsstand vendors will be more than likely to carry comics. Also, a lot of buying and selling is psychological. People who balk at paying $3 for a regular-sized comic book have no problem paying up to $8 for a magazine. It's the whole "bigger is better" mentality.
 
What I suggest is that a publisher, like Marvel, take three somewhat related titles, say "Avengers," "Captain America," and "Iron Man" and combine them into a magazine, with the same page count for each story that they would've had as a regular-sized comic book. That is to say, roughly, the magazine would have about 74 pages of comic art and story. The remaining content could be filled with paid advertisements, pin-ups, and editorial content. The entire package could run about 100 pages, with a retail of around $7.99, more or less.
 
This would not be an "either/or" situation, in that the customer would have a choice between a magazine version and a normal-sized comic book version. No, the change in format would have to be total, and across the line. There would be some protest from some quarters, but I honestly think the market would ultimately accept it. And it would be nice if Marvel and DC, and others agreed to make the change, and do so at the same time.
 
Changing the format would increase the likelihood of broadening the distribution of the product, which would then result in more exposure leading to higher sales and increased readership in the long run. The perception among readers would be that they are getting more for their money. No creative teams would have to be displaced with this solution, either.
 
Perhaps the biggest change is that the creators would have to actually start meeting the deadlines again. It wouldn't do to have publishing held up because two out of three stories are not ready by the time the book is due to be printed. Fill-in stories may be a way of taking care of some of those deadline issues, but more importantly, publishers and the editors need to crack the whip and have the creators meet their deadlines. Never has the industry been more lax about putting out monthly periodicals on a monthly schedule than these past ten years.
 
It's a bold move, but the continued survival of this industry requires bold tactics. The biggest problems facing this industry today are distribution, pricing, late books, and marketing. The plan I propose would be a step forward in addressing those issues. I feel that the corporate world these days is way too shortsighted, and the comic book industry is as guilty as another other industry. It's time we look forward and plan ahead with serious intent.
 
On another somewhat unrelated note: Am I the only person displeased with how comic publishers are making retailers and the fans pay for product that was once the kind of stuff that was given away as promotional materials? I mean, sure, I can see comics like "Batman: The Twelve Cent Adventure," and the quarter comics Marvel was putting out a few years back, but I feel that publishers are starting to take advantage of the concept in a bad way these days.
 
Dark Horse published a "comic book" full of pin-ups to celebrate its' 20th anniversary, and another publisher put a "comic" that was barely more than sketches with some commentary, and both were sold to retailers to sell at a quarter apiece. Marvel just released a "CIVIL WAR: Daily Bugle" newspaper that retailed at 50 cents! Back in the Eighties, all of these comics would have been distributed for free as promotional marketing materials. While the price point is not extravagant, I still feel that retailers and readers are being fleeced. More of the "let's get the money now, worry about the adverse effects later" mentality that is all-too prevalent anymore.
 
I hope that the short-term mentality will go away at some point. I care deeply about this industry and want to see it survive for years to come.
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 5:08pm | IP Logged | 2  

I like this idea. And meeting deadlines might even be easier if the page count for each feature varied from issue to issue. If the Avengers-related magazine also included a fourth feature, like say Thor, that rotated in and out with Iron Man and Captain America, the page count for some characters' stories could be lowered each month, to 8 or 16 pages.
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 5:10pm | IP Logged | 3  

Nicely written Matt.  Comics could become essentially what Worlds Finest, Action, Brave and the Bold, etc were in the 50s and 60s, only with larger pages.  I'd go for it.  Oh sure, there'd have to be a lot of thought given as to what material to put into each book, to be sure of a fair mix for your money, but this would be a step back in the right direction, assuming people would buy in.
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 5:11pm | IP Logged | 4  

Well said Matt.  I agree completely.
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 5:13pm | IP Logged | 5  

I would also like to see some prose in the book like the old days.  Lets have a bit of everything.
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 5:18pm | IP Logged | 6  

 

Great idea. Never even throught about it. This magazine sized multiple title issue would also require the best talent on a more consistent basis for a longer amount of time. Deadlines would force editors to go with the "money" guys more, and keep them on longer...the kind who can get a story on paper in a very certain amount of time. I love the idea that suddenly Kurt Busiek is worth his weight in gold compared to Bendis in this "utilitarian" mode.

No more filler issues in anticipation of a trade. Prices the way they are, the consumer wants their money's worth and this is a way to get it to them.

Good work, I say.

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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 5:25pm | IP Logged | 7  

Prima donna talent will never allow something like this to happen. Who would get the credit for potential high sales?
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 5:35pm | IP Logged | 8  

oh, and back issue stories could be included too.  Give some background.
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 5:39pm | IP Logged | 9  

Good letter, Matt, and I agree.  One thing I disagree with:  I don't think it has to be magazine only for a particular piece of content.  I think a given story could first appear in the weekly comic book (and those of us who hunt down our LCS are like the crack addicts first in line).  Then the story appears the triple length magazine at stores and newsstands.  I think that's a different market and may increase sales without losing many sales from the LCS.
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 5:48pm | IP Logged | 10  

Thanks for the kind words, guys. I know that any change, or even a suggection of change, will be met with some trepidation, and that there will be debate, but I truly believe what I outlined above is a step in the right direction to helping solve a lot of the problems comics face these days.

 Jason Fulton wrote:
...Prima donna talent will never allow something like this to happen...

It's time that our industry stop cow-towing to the whims of such artists. I honestly feel that while certain talent can increase sales per issue on a title by a notable margin, the terminal lateness epidemic we see these days undermines any real sales when looked at on a quarterly, even yearly basis.

Frankly, I am positive that there is untapped potential talent out there that can meet deadlines AND be fan-favorites.

Why are so many popular artists so bad at making deadlines these days? Because they can.

It's time that they were told that they can't.

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...Who would get the credit for potential high sales?...

Reader feedback would show which creators are popular, and are responsible for sales increases. It wouldn't be too hard to figure it out.

 

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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 5:50pm | IP Logged | 11  

I, too, like this idea, and I concur with Joe about the inclusion of back issue material inside the comic magazine.
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 5:52pm | IP Logged | 12  

Jay, the problem with offering an alternative version of a publication is that one is instantly perceived as being an inferior version. Note the "Ultimate" magazines from a few years back. The average fan thought of those publications as little more than over-sized reprints.

If a story appeared in a smaller, comic-sized publication first, it will cut into the effectiveness of the overall plan. In fact, it could very well doom the initiative before it has a chance to really make any impact. It would possibly create a scenario similar to that of the "waiting for the trade" kind.

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